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		<title>by: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-222</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Pat - I think you are right on this one - I have dialogued with several of my 'regulars' over a period of time. This has been in replies on my blog, comments on theirs and through emails in some cases. 

I really do enjoy the social/community nature of this thing called blogging - that was a totally unexpected aspect for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat - I think you are right on this one - I have dialogued with several of my &#8216;regulars&#8217; over a period of time. This has been in replies on my blog, comments on theirs and through emails in some cases. </p>
<p>I really do enjoy the social/community nature of this thing called blogging - that was a totally unexpected aspect for me.
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		<title>by: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-221</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder if some of this reciprocal nature of commenting is due to the idea that the commenting is a kind of slow-motion conversation.  Albeit a conversation between strangers sometimes, casuall acquaintances at other times, and good friends at other times again.  

I'm not really sure how valid this idea is, but it popped into my head as I was reading these comments, and thought I'd throw it in the fray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if some of this reciprocal nature of commenting is due to the idea that the commenting is a kind of slow-motion conversation.  Albeit a conversation between strangers sometimes, casuall acquaintances at other times, and good friends at other times again.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really sure how valid this idea is, but it popped into my head as I was reading these comments, and thought I&#8217;d throw it in the fray.
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		<title>by: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-220</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As I said in a comment on Joe's blog today, I was neither upset with his comment, nor do I have any other problem with it. I was and am confused as to the point of the statement which is so  obviously true.

I was concerned that perhaps it was possible that there is a genuine problem with the level of my own commenting. Actually I am doing less of late!

The real driver of traffic to my site is obvious to me looking at the logfiles - I will say what it is sometime - it is absolutely not the level of commenting I do! :-)

It is my view that Joe was deliberately being a little provocative to create some discussion and some traffic to his site. No problem with provocation so long as it is civil and not abusve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said in a comment on Joe&#8217;s blog today, I was neither upset with his comment, nor do I have any other problem with it. I was and am confused as to the point of the statement which is so  obviously true.</p>
<p>I was concerned that perhaps it was possible that there is a genuine problem with the level of my own commenting. Actually I am doing less of late!</p>
<p>The real driver of traffic to my site is obvious to me looking at the logfiles - I will say what it is sometime - it is absolutely not the level of commenting I do! <img src='http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It is my view that Joe was deliberately being a little provocative to create some discussion and some traffic to his site. No problem with provocation so long as it is civil and not abusve.
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		<title>by: k murphy j</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-219</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-219</guid>
					<description>Hi Ian, 
I read this post when you first wrote it.  Only Jamie had commented at that time.  I started several comments, then deleted them - because my comments were all a bit defensive against poor Joe. I've had people leave a controversial comment and fellow commenters "got all up in their biz'ness" for leaving it, and I didn't want to be that girl.  lol!  Okay, a cooler head is now prevailing...  

I am glad that, in your response, you questioned the point of the comment.  It really seemed like a random statement thrown awkwardly into a conversation.  But look at all the great introspection that have come from that one perspective.

I feel the whole allure of blogging is that interactive spirit.  Anyone could create a basic website and post pictures.  The fun of the blog or photoblog is that you get to connect with people.  And, at our core, people crave community and seek out interaction.  That's not ego, it's human nature.  

Besides all of us are smart enough to read between the lines on the comments we get.  When someone thinks something is great, they pretty much say so.  If an image evokes a feeling, memory, idea - then you learn a bit about (a) how your image sparked someone's mind and imagination, (b) a tiny glimpse on how that person sees and describes their world, and (c) whether that then brings about more discussion/ consideration/ confirmation/ joy/ depression, etc.  Inherently, we use each other and each other's words, reactions and/or silence to sharpen our own insights, wits, and skills (photographic and social).   

This was a very fun entry to follow over the last couple of days.  I've appreciated the comments above, because everyone has just a slightly different twist on it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,<br />
I read this post when you first wrote it.  Only Jamie had commented at that time.  I started several comments, then deleted them - because my comments were all a bit defensive against poor Joe. I&#8217;ve had people leave a controversial comment and fellow commenters &#8220;got all up in their biz&#8217;ness&#8221; for leaving it, and I didn&#8217;t want to be that girl.  lol!  Okay, a cooler head is now prevailing&#8230;  </p>
<p>I am glad that, in your response, you questioned the point of the comment.  It really seemed like a random statement thrown awkwardly into a conversation.  But look at all the great introspection that have come from that one perspective.</p>
<p>I feel the whole allure of blogging is that interactive spirit.  Anyone could create a basic website and post pictures.  The fun of the blog or photoblog is that you get to connect with people.  And, at our core, people crave community and seek out interaction.  That&#8217;s not ego, it&#8217;s human nature.  </p>
<p>Besides all of us are smart enough to read between the lines on the comments we get.  When someone thinks something is great, they pretty much say so.  If an image evokes a feeling, memory, idea - then you learn a bit about (a) how your image sparked someone&#8217;s mind and imagination, (b) a tiny glimpse on how that person sees and describes their world, and (c) whether that then brings about more discussion/ consideration/ confirmation/ joy/ depression, etc.  Inherently, we use each other and each other&#8217;s words, reactions and/or silence to sharpen our own insights, wits, and skills (photographic and social).   </p>
<p>This was a very fun entry to follow over the last couple of days.  I&#8217;ve appreciated the comments above, because everyone has just a slightly different twist on it.  <img src='http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-218</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-218</guid>
					<description>Thank you for all your comments and support.

Jamie - glad that you are evaluating for yourself why you are doing this and what it means for you.

I would like to clarify that there is no expectation from me that people reciprocate my comments - indeed many frequently do not and a few have never commented on my images. I do tend to reciprocate my self and it is my view that a lot of commenting activity will tend in general to lead to a higher volume of returned comments. 

I am often amazed as to which images illicit the highest response - either in umbers of comments or, more frequently, in the quality - in terms of the impact either positive or negative. 

My recent series on Stowe had a couple of images one of which was really liked and I thought it average and one which was slated (as close as we ever get to doing that to each other). Also last week the image of dancing reflections receved a high number of comments and seems to be popular though the tone of the comments was more - 'OK' than 'Fabulaous'.

This week, I received a lot of comments on the sepia series, though yesterday's was significantly lower - perhaps people are getting bored with it now as it could be getting samey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for all your comments and support.</p>
<p>Jamie - glad that you are evaluating for yourself why you are doing this and what it means for you.</p>
<p>I would like to clarify that there is no expectation from me that people reciprocate my comments - indeed many frequently do not and a few have never commented on my images. I do tend to reciprocate my self and it is my view that a lot of commenting activity will tend in general to lead to a higher volume of returned comments. </p>
<p>I am often amazed as to which images illicit the highest response - either in umbers of comments or, more frequently, in the quality - in terms of the impact either positive or negative. </p>
<p>My recent series on Stowe had a couple of images one of which was really liked and I thought it average and one which was slated (as close as we ever get to doing that to each other). Also last week the image of dancing reflections receved a high number of comments and seems to be popular though the tone of the comments was more - &#8216;OK&#8217; than &#8216;Fabulaous&#8217;.</p>
<p>This week, I received a lot of comments on the sepia series, though yesterday&#8217;s was significantly lower - perhaps people are getting bored with it now as it could be getting samey.
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		<title>by: mari</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-217</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 03:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-217</guid>
					<description>I started my photoblog a month ago. I started visiting other people's blogs and making comments when something about the image struck me. I have to say that I do look at the number of visits I get cause my reason for starting the blog was to share my passion for photography with others who share the same. I read the comments and answer any questions that may come up. If a visitor is new to my site and leaves a message, I do go check their site. I do leave a message if I like something. If they specifically state they are looking for critique then I'll give some constructive critisism where warranted.

I don't leave messages for the sake of filling up their comment box. I don't expect my visitors to leave messages all the time. If they feel like it, it's available to them. To this point, I have not received any nasty comments but it is a feature I will think about taking out if such a thing happens. Photoblogging is something I enjoy doing and wouldn't want some fool's comments like "Joe Ob" ruining it for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started my photoblog a month ago. I started visiting other people&#8217;s blogs and making comments when something about the image struck me. I have to say that I do look at the number of visits I get cause my reason for starting the blog was to share my passion for photography with others who share the same. I read the comments and answer any questions that may come up. If a visitor is new to my site and leaves a message, I do go check their site. I do leave a message if I like something. If they specifically state they are looking for critique then I&#8217;ll give some constructive critisism where warranted.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t leave messages for the sake of filling up their comment box. I don&#8217;t expect my visitors to leave messages all the time. If they feel like it, it&#8217;s available to them. To this point, I have not received any nasty comments but it is a feature I will think about taking out if such a thing happens. Photoblogging is something I enjoy doing and wouldn&#8217;t want some fool&#8217;s comments like &#8220;Joe Ob&#8221; ruining it for me.
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		<title>by: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-216</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 03:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-216</guid>
					<description>Of course one way to get more comments to boost a failing ego or perhaps just a poor site would be to make a number of similar provocative statements on a variety of sites to see if people were compelled to rush and see the site that is in pursuit of pictorial quality rather than clocking up 'nice pic' comments.

Quantity of comments does not reflect quality of blog, those who comment meaningfully across a large number of sites are far more likely to get more comments back, a 'no brainer' as they say in the country that is currently my home.  However, it does not seem strange to me that the sites that stand out as really interesting, meaningfull, genuine and well intentioned seem to get the most comments.    

As mentioned above the grouping of blog communities is about taste and personal interest, there are few commenters that stray into other camps.  What is very encouraging about these bloggers is that I have recieved messages back from people on who's site I have commented even though I have no blog of my own, what did they have to gain? It adds weight to my experience that 95% of people the world over are really decent polite folk who understand courtesy and give generously and naturaly. Or am I being nice just to get some more comments back? Do I really believe all that I have just said or am I just trying to elicit a response? Such is the mystique and intrigue of conversation without being face to face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course one way to get more comments to boost a failing ego or perhaps just a poor site would be to make a number of similar provocative statements on a variety of sites to see if people were compelled to rush and see the site that is in pursuit of pictorial quality rather than clocking up &#8216;nice pic&#8217; comments.</p>
<p>Quantity of comments does not reflect quality of blog, those who comment meaningfully across a large number of sites are far more likely to get more comments back, a &#8216;no brainer&#8217; as they say in the country that is currently my home.  However, it does not seem strange to me that the sites that stand out as really interesting, meaningfull, genuine and well intentioned seem to get the most comments.    </p>
<p>As mentioned above the grouping of blog communities is about taste and personal interest, there are few commenters that stray into other camps.  What is very encouraging about these bloggers is that I have recieved messages back from people on who&#8217;s site I have commented even though I have no blog of my own, what did they have to gain? It adds weight to my experience that 95% of people the world over are really decent polite folk who understand courtesy and give generously and naturaly. Or am I being nice just to get some more comments back? Do I really believe all that I have just said or am I just trying to elicit a response? Such is the mystique and intrigue of conversation without being face to face.
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		<title>by: nogger</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-215</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 23:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I always go and look at the blogs of people who comment - assuming they have one and leave a link - but I don't always comment on their photos. Heck, I don't always comment on the photos of the blogs I view regularly and have in my RSS feedreader!

I do, however, try and respond personally to any comments I get on my blog. If only to say thankyou.

I have no problem with people doing lots of commenting. I do have a problem with people commenting to attract attention - which we all know happens.

Do comments impact quality? I hope not. I hope I'm doing that. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always go and look at the blogs of people who comment - assuming they have one and leave a link - but I don&#8217;t always comment on their photos. Heck, I don&#8217;t always comment on the photos of the blogs I view regularly and have in my RSS feedreader!</p>
<p>I do, however, try and respond personally to any comments I get on my blog. If only to say thankyou.</p>
<p>I have no problem with people doing lots of commenting. I do have a problem with people commenting to attract attention - which we all know happens.</p>
<p>Do comments impact quality? I hope not. I hope I&#8217;m doing that. <img src='http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Seeing Anew (Judy)</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-214</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I find it fascinating how the whole commenting process does a kind of natural self-selection, grouping people with very specific, similar interests, and I think, similar values.  For example, I tend to like nature shots of different geographic regions (as opposed to sports photography, or rock-concert shots, etc.)  and I suppose the people who visit my blog tend to like the same thing.  As for values, our particular "group" (loosely speaking) seems to have a fairly high value on courtesy and community, as well as on exploring the art of photographic composition.

Originally I was interested in other people's blogs mainly because of the subjects they shot.  As we left comments on one another's techniques, the photos as art, regardless of subject, assumed equal importance.  Then as  the sense of community developed, the photographers themselves -- their daily lives, their thoughts on things other than photography -- has become of equal importance to me.   (In fact, I would DEARLY love to see a series of "A Day in the Life of..." photographs from the people I have come to know through photoblogging.)  I wonder what the next phase in the birth of this community will be.

In any case, I pay reciprocal visits/comments to 

a) discover new photoblogs that deal with subjects that interest me
b) get new ideas for photographic techniques and subjects (I'm really, really tired of taking pictures of flowers -- Bring on the snow!) 
c) promote a dialogue with people discussing things of mutual interest

I think we all agonize over not having enough time to reciprocate every comment.  There are so many great blogs and great people out there to get to know.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it fascinating how the whole commenting process does a kind of natural self-selection, grouping people with very specific, similar interests, and I think, similar values.  For example, I tend to like nature shots of different geographic regions (as opposed to sports photography, or rock-concert shots, etc.)  and I suppose the people who visit my blog tend to like the same thing.  As for values, our particular &#8220;group&#8221; (loosely speaking) seems to have a fairly high value on courtesy and community, as well as on exploring the art of photographic composition.</p>
<p>Originally I was interested in other people&#8217;s blogs mainly because of the subjects they shot.  As we left comments on one another&#8217;s techniques, the photos as art, regardless of subject, assumed equal importance.  Then as  the sense of community developed, the photographers themselves &#8212; their daily lives, their thoughts on things other than photography &#8212; has become of equal importance to me.   (In fact, I would DEARLY love to see a series of &#8220;A Day in the Life of&#8230;&#8221; photographs from the people I have come to know through photoblogging.)  I wonder what the next phase in the birth of this community will be.</p>
<p>In any case, I pay reciprocal visits/comments to </p>
<p>a) discover new photoblogs that deal with subjects that interest me<br />
b) get new ideas for photographic techniques and subjects (I&#8217;m really, really tired of taking pictures of flowers &#8212; Bring on the snow!)<br />
c) promote a dialogue with people discussing things of mutual interest</p>
<p>I think we all agonize over not having enough time to reciprocate every comment.  There are so many great blogs and great people out there to get to know.  Sigh.
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		<title>by: Obelix</title>
		<link>http://www.morvenphoto.co.uk/words/2005/10/07/the-resiprocal-nature-of-commenting/#comment-213</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, pretty much everything has been said before.

I gather two things.

1)  # of comments one gets is not an indication of how good a photographer you are.

2)  To me, personally, I have established cordial friendships based on blog comments and I ask for critique in private emails.  Blogging is a way to network for me that introduces new people to me.

3)  More than 90% of people who visit my blog don't leave a comment, that does not bother me.  It used to bother me a bit, but I guess I have grown up beyond that.  The only reason why my photos are shown in my gallery and blog are I need people to see them - and I am glad they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, pretty much everything has been said before.</p>
<p>I gather two things.</p>
<p>1)  # of comments one gets is not an indication of how good a photographer you are.</p>
<p>2)  To me, personally, I have established cordial friendships based on blog comments and I ask for critique in private emails.  Blogging is a way to network for me that introduces new people to me.</p>
<p>3)  More than 90% of people who visit my blog don&#8217;t leave a comment, that does not bother me.  It used to bother me a bit, but I guess I have grown up beyond that.  The only reason why my photos are shown in my gallery and blog are I need people to see them - and I am glad they do.
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